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Fr. Scott Bailey, C.Ss.R.'s avatar

The college seminary of the order I belong to closed in 1990. The philosophy program was moved to a Catholic University in NYC. The situation was not dissimilar. The only thing that really mattered was the basketball program. At least half of the student body didn’t belong in undergrad programs. They were there because that’s what middle class Catholic kids from Long Island did after graduation. As a result the program was considerably dumbed down. It was pitiful. The only way to get a decent background in philosophy was to take electives with a select few professors who were committed to making sure those of us going on to study theology were well prepared. I will be forever grateful to and for them. That said I graduated with honors, not because I’m smart or worked hard, but because the bar was so low. In the college seminary I would have probably graduated in the middle 3s.

It’s really rather sad to see what has become of American education. I saw a report recently—can’t recall where—that said 20% or more PhD candidates are functionally illiterate. We’ve got to do better but, as you say, it’s not coming back.

Personally I think it’s all about greed, but that’s another story.

JimmieOakland's avatar

A liberal education is essentially worthless, in a practical sense, although not without value. Once it was instrumentalized as a path to a better career, the game was over. Too many people went to college because they bought the career hype. If that ever had a kernal of truth, those days are long over, as many grads are currently finding out. College should return to it's elite status, not in a sense of being the province of solely the rich, but in sense that only those truly interested in cultivating their minds should attend.

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